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A Rocky Road to Dictatorship in the US?

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Postby Christer on Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:53 pm

Larry wrote:SECRET LAWS

Guess what? Americans do not have the right to read some of the laws that apply to them! Instead they are supposed to do what they are told, no matter how stupid it is. So far, the secret laws are being applied on a small scale at travel hubs--like airports--and they involve things like warrantless searches (unconstitutional under the 4th Amendment) and the showing of identification.

Some people may regard these two examples as small potatoes in the overall scheme of things. However the concept of a secret law is straight out of the Dark Ages! If you want to read about John Gilmore's legal battle over secret laws and the right to hassle-free travel within his own country, here is the link:
http://papersplease.org/gilmore/


Ha ha ha ha ha ha

That was the MOST stupid thing i ever heard. ::LA

I hope that we don't get those "Secret Laws" in Sweden.
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Postby Larry on Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:39 am

The Late, Great American Nation
By John W. Whitehead
3/1/2007

“It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties.” —James Madison

We live in a fundamentally different country since 9/11. Not only do many Americans view their government with suspicion, but how their government views them has drastically changed.

A perfect example of this took place last fall. Prior to the elections that transformed the makeup of Congress, the Bush Administration pushed for the inclusion of two stealth provisions into a mammoth defense budget bill. The additions made it easier for the government to declare martial law and establish a dictatorship.

Since the days of our Founding Fathers, when King George III used his armies to terrorize and tyrannize the colonies, the American people have understandably distrusted the use of a national military force to intervene in civilian affairs, except in instances of extreme emergency and limited duration.

Hence, as a sign of the Founders’ concern that the people not be under the power of a military government, control of the military was vested in a civilian government, with a civilian commander-in-chief. And the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 furthered those safeguards against military law, making it a crime for the government to use the military to carry out arrests, searches, seizure of evidence and other activities normally handled by a civilian police force.

However, with the inclusion of a seemingly insignificant rider into the massive defense bill (the martial law section of the 591-page Defense Appropriations Act takes up just a few paragraphs), the Bush Administration has managed to weaken what the New York Times refers to as “two obscure but important bulwarks of liberty.” One is posse comitatus. The other is the Insurrection Act of 1807, which limits a president’s domestic use of the military to putting down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion where a state is violating federal law or depriving the people of their constitutional rights.

Under these new provisions, the president can now use the military as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, disease outbreak, terrorist attack or to any “other condition.” According to the new law, Bush doesn’t even have to notify Congress of his intent to use military force against the American people—he just has to notify them once he has done so. The defense budget provision’s vague language leaves the doors wide open for rampant abuse. As writer Jane Smiley noted, “the introduction of these changes amounts, not to an attack on the Congress and the balance of power, but to a particular and concerted attack on the citizens of the nation. Bush is laying the legal groundwork to repeal even the appearance of democracy.”

The main reason we do not want the military patrolling our streets is that under martial law, the Bill of Rights becomes null and void. A standing army—something that propelled the early colonists into revolution—strips the American people of any vestige of freedom. Thus, if we were subject to martial law, there would be no rules, no protections, no judicial oversight and no elections. And unless these provisions are repealed, the president’s new power will be set in stone for future administrations to use—and abuse.

A fundamental principle of American government is to not trust public officials. But modern Americans, primed by television pablum and ignorant of their history, have a tendency to trust people in office simply because they appear to share a common faith, say the right things or come from a certain region of the country. But lest we forget, power has a tendency to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Furthermore, the way this was handled proves that we cannot trust government officials. By sneaking this provision in as a rider to a larger bill, public debate and media attention were avoided. Had the provision been openly discussed and debated, there would have been opposition and outcry. And it most likely would have been soundly rejected. Instead, it was rushed through the Republican-controlled Congress prior to the elections and enacted into law.

The Founding Fathers would have literally been up in arms over Bush’s actions. They understood the dangers inherent in vesting power in a single person, which is exactly what this legislation purports to do. There’s no limit to what the president can now do: the “any condition” language opens the door for total power, a dictatorship. The people are left with no defense.

Furthermore, this legislation erases the balance between the state and federal government. The state governors understood this, and that’s why many vocally opposed the provisions. But it was to no avail.

Who’s to blame here? Congress has utterly failed to exercise its power to check the growing power of the Executive Branch. The media have also been woefully remiss. Although a handful of bloggers sounded the alarm, the major media outlets failed to report on it. If it weren’t for a recent editorial in the New York Times, most people would still be in the dark. What’s the point of a free press if you can’t rely on the media to report the news?

However, the larger blame rests with the Bush Administration, whose actions over the past six years suggest that the American people are the enemy. Think about some of the changes that have already moved us closer to a police state: the invasive USA Patriot Act; the increased domestic surveillance of citizens’ emails and telephone calls; attempts to deny habeas corpus to prisoners; a national ID card; and now this alarming new law. In addition to opening the doors to a military state, the law also facilitates militarized police round-ups and detaining of protesters in detention camps that are already being built on American soil by the Halliburton corporation. Americans are incredibly naïve if they believe those camps being built are just for illegal aliens.

A pattern is emerging, predicated on one horrific incident in 2001. The current administration is laying the groundwork for a military state, and this is our final wake-up call.
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Postby Larry on Wed May 23, 2007 5:39 am

Is the U.S. one major hurricane away from a full-blown dictatorship?


Bush Anoints Himself as the Ensurer of Constitutional Government in Emergency
By Matthew Rothschild
The Progressive

Friday 18 May 2007

In a new National Security Presidential Directive, Bush lays out his plans for dealing with a "catastrophic emergency."

With scarcely a mention in the mainstream media, President Bush has ordered up a plan for responding to a catastrophic attack.

Under that plan, he entrusts himself with leading the entire federal government, not just the Executive Branch. And he gives himself the responsibility "for ensuring constitutional government."

He laid this all out in a document entitled "National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51" and "Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20."

The White House released it on May 9.

Other than a discussion on Daily Kos led off by a posting by Leo Fender, and a pro-forma notice in a couple of mainstream newspapers, this document has gone unremarked upon.

The subject of the document is entitled "National Continuity Policy."

It defines a "catastrophic emergency" as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function."

This could mean another 9/11, or another Katrina, or a major earthquake in California, I imagine, since it says it would include "localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies."

The document emphasizes the need to ensure "the continued function of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government," it states.

But it says flat out: "The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government."

The document waves at the need to work closely with the other two branches, saying there will be "a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government." But this effort will be "coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers."

Among the efforts coordinated by the President would ensuring the capability of the three branches of government to "provide for orderly succession" and "appropriate transition of leadership."

The document designates a National Continuity Coordinator, who would be the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism.

Currently holding that post is Frances Fragos Townsend.

She is required to develop a National Continuity Implementation Plan and submit it within 90 days.

As part of that plan, she is not only to devise procedures for the Executive Branch but also give guidance to "state, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure."

The secretary of Homeland Security is also directed to develop planning guidance for "private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators," as well as state, local, territorial, and tribal governments.

The document gives the Vice President a role in implementing the provisions of the contingency plans.

"This directive shall be implanted in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 USC 19), with the consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved."

The document also contains "classified Continuity Annexes."
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Postby Christer on Sun May 27, 2007 10:44 am

Thanks for interesting info.

I have plenty of links and info to 911 that i will post later.

Did you know that 36% of all americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy.
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Postby Larry on Sun May 27, 2007 6:04 pm

Christer wrote:Did you know that 36% of all americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy.


No, I didn't know that. But I'm not surprised. This is probably one of those things that is systematically underreported in ther mainstream press in the U.S. Another example: Approximately 40% of the American public thinks that Bush should be impeached, but that is not reported very much in our corporate media either.
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Postby Christer on Sun May 27, 2007 7:43 pm

I will post some more interesting articles later (from the 911 discussion)

btw

I don't think that Bush should accuse other countries for terrorism or crime against humanity. After seeing some pictures and documentaries about guantanamo bay camp the sad fact is that he are no better himself.

Talk about double standards.................

If you want to be "the better one" you can't sink to the same low level, can you? No matter what these people have done, it's STILL no reason to treat them like that. If you want the world to look at you with respect, get rid of places like guantanamo bay camp at once. It surprises me that a country (read government) that talks about "freedom", "justice" and equal rights treats people like that. Discusting is the only word i can think of at the moment.

Shame on you Bush!

And you know what?

You can't fool me, because, shame on, shame on YOU, i can't get fooled again.

Bush, from Värmland? No way.

"Sun is shining over Karlstad" is a saying that speaks for itself. People from Värmland is known to be very nice (they have a very pleasant dialect too)

(karlstad is the biggest city in värmland)
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Postby Christer on Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:57 pm

Getting Away with Murder! Big Oil and Our Administration in Washington Have Finally Gotten What They Have Sought in Iraq!

This war will wind down when the oil distribution law, or whatever they call it, is signed. It was all about the oil, from day one (really from before day one). Once it is passed by the Iraqi Government that we set up for just this very reason, we will start winding down and leave just enough troops in Iraq to make sure that they don't renege on the law, and to keep Iran in line.

If this turns out to be the case, than Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and everyone else in government and the oil companies should be put on trial for murdering almost a million human beings for profit. Big Oil has gotten its hands on all that light crude and can pump for another twenty years.

Bush will claim that we have done all we can do to bring democracy to Iraq. He will claim that he doesn't want to waste more "innocent" lives for people unwilling to stand up for themselves and turn to the Iraq Study Group's recommendations (that was put together by James Baker III, THE NO1 Oil Man), and take our troops out of the hard fighting in the cities and they will stay on the big military installations with the premise that we are there to make sure that Al Qaeda will not use Iraq for a training ground.

This will be greeted by very happy liberals who will believe that we have backed Bush down. The rest of the country will believe that Bush has finally started showing that he can "compromise" and they too will be happy. Everyone will be delighted with this new turn of events except the people that know better. The people that know better will be the people that have done their homework and know it is all about control of the oilfields. Their cries of foul play will go unheeded, and in the back rooms of Washington and Texas, there will be much back slapping and smiles because one of the greatest con-jobs in world history will have gone down without a hitch.

While Big Oil and the Bush Administration dance with each other, the losers of this big game, the one that didn't even really know they were playing a game in the first place, will just go their own way. The Iraqi people, the poor Iraqi people that have never controlled their own oil, or made a profit off of their only big resource, will see this resource slip away once again.

The other losers, the people that buy gasoline and heating oil, the factories that use petroleum products to make plastics and fertilizers and animal feed, will pay through the nose. Big Oil will have its hands firmly on the oil spigot, manufacturing oil shortages when they turn it to the left, so they can keep prices high, and turning it to the right to increase the flow when circumstances dictate that more oil should hit the market. Remember, this is light sweet crude, not heavy sludge like the Venezuelan stuff.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... l_and.html
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Postby Larry on Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:55 pm

HITLER YOUTH COMING TO AMERIKA?

Of course, that's not what the Department of Homeland Security calls it. But if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Read about it here.
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Postby Christer on Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:13 am

To teach children about terrorism awareness says it all.
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Postby Master Of Something on Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:29 pm

Ooops. To bad to bad :thumbsdown
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